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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be perfectly honest, and blunt, anybody who doesn't realize that 'Upload' means that something is going from your computer to the internet, isn't fit for computers.  Put down the mouse, and pick up a typewriter.  Or at least keep off the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be perfectly honest, and blunt, anybody who doesn't realize that 'Upload' means that something is going from your computer to the internet, isn't fit for computers.  Put down the mouse, and pick up a typewriter.  Or at least keep off the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony19</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Have to back you 100% there " old tabby "

Well said....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Have to back you 100% there " old tabby "</p>
<p>Well said....</p>
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		<title>By: Old Tabby</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Tabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith makes a good point! 
It may not have been the author's *original* intention for HJT logs to be  posted all over the web but he certainly knew it was happening &#38; he then developed the program to make the logs as useful as possible. Presumably he tried to do this without compromising the user's security which, BTW, was already compromised by whatever nasty they had allowed to be installed! 

However, there's still a con here! What, if anything, does TrendMicro do with the logs?!?!?!

Other than an expert cleaning a system, anyone running HJT is NOT an expert &#38; is looking for help. An "AnalyzeThis" button *implies* this is how you get help.
But is it?!?! 
I doubt it!
The referenced page tells you to post the log to a forum for help &#38; then come back to buy TrendMicro products to protect your system after it's cleaned. So what the heck is the point of having users upload log files?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith makes a good point!<br />
It may not have been the author's *original* intention for HJT logs to be  posted all over the web but he certainly knew it was happening &amp; he then developed the program to make the logs as useful as possible. Presumably he tried to do this without compromising the user's security which, BTW, was already compromised by whatever nasty they had allowed to be installed! </p>
<p>However, there's still a con here! What, if anything, does TrendMicro do with the logs?!?!?!</p>
<p>Other than an expert cleaning a system, anyone running HJT is NOT an expert &amp; is looking for help. An "AnalyzeThis" button *implies* this is how you get help.<br />
But is it?!?!<br />
I doubt it!<br />
The referenced page tells you to post the log to a forum for help &amp; then come back to buy TrendMicro products to protect your system after it's cleaned. So what the heck is the point of having users upload log files?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-1245</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, if they wanted to see the logs of people, the logs are constantly being posted on different sites to be analyzed for help. As a business person, someone with tech experience, and as a programmer, I see no way they can profit directly from this, other than to gather technical data to improve their products. Really, if people are that concerned about someone else learning about websites they have visited, maybe these sites are something they shouldn't be visiting to begin with? Just something to ponder. If it embarrasses you for someone else to find out about it, then don't do it to start with.

Merry Christmas, and God Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, if they wanted to see the logs of people, the logs are constantly being posted on different sites to be analyzed for help. As a business person, someone with tech experience, and as a programmer, I see no way they can profit directly from this, other than to gather technical data to improve their products. Really, if people are that concerned about someone else learning about websites they have visited, maybe these sites are something they shouldn't be visiting to begin with? Just something to ponder. If it embarrasses you for someone else to find out about it, then don't do it to start with.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas, and God Bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Homercidal</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Homercidal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, it says "upload" right under the button.  Anyone with enough brains (or guts) to use HJT without worrying about screwing up their settings is going to know what "upload" is.  Personally, I mention HJT to clients and always recommend they have a knowledgeable person use it for them if they do think that messing with the registry is within their capabilities.

Perhaps Trendsecure could be using this information to help make their software better?  How many times have we seen HJT logs posted online for all the world to see, and yet how can this be better than giving to a professional?  How can they be making money over this??

Someones around here need to kick back, sip a homebrew, gaze out the window at the lovely winter landscape and reflect on the wonders of nature.  IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, it says "upload" right under the button.  Anyone with enough brains (or guts) to use HJT without worrying about screwing up their settings is going to know what "upload" is.  Personally, I mention HJT to clients and always recommend they have a knowledgeable person use it for them if they do think that messing with the registry is within their capabilities.</p>
<p>Perhaps Trendsecure could be using this information to help make their software better?  How many times have we seen HJT logs posted online for all the world to see, and yet how can this be better than giving to a professional?  How can they be making money over this??</p>
<p>Someones around here need to kick back, sip a homebrew, gaze out the window at the lovely winter landscape and reflect on the wonders of nature.  IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: FG</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>FG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesnt matter to me , The old versions I have saved to disc over the years will work fine for me in xp. beings I will never have to worry about vista . They are how ever not painting the line clearly enough and using the majority of internet users ignorance of the pc against them which is as bad as malware named windows update  etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesnt matter to me , The old versions I have saved to disc over the years will work fine for me in xp. beings I will never have to worry about vista . They are how ever not painting the line clearly enough and using the majority of internet users ignorance of the pc against them which is as bad as malware named windows update  etc...</p>
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		<title>By: Seanmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>Seanmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's why I archive and keep handy old versions of stuff like 
Hijackthis 1.99 ....me thinks oldversion.com has it,  if not Im sure you can find it somewhere.

Funny thing is we wouldnt this or any other viri detection  if Mhikroshoft would plug the holes in the OS like they should but instead ( and its only a rumor but...) they leave doors open and let 3rd parties fill them with anti-viri programs that the anti viri program writers have written.   Perfect scheme eh?
I mean honestly - In 1969 we  put a man on the moon with vaccum tube technology but in 2007 we cant make an OS thats impervious to your typical 8th grader with a little VBS and c++ training.... yeah right whatever...  Im buying a MAC (( I never thought Id say that screeb, but Im doing it , Im tired of it all.) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's why I archive and keep handy old versions of stuff like<br />
Hijackthis 1.99 ....me thinks oldversion.com has it,  if not Im sure you can find it somewhere.</p>
<p>Funny thing is we wouldnt this or any other viri detection  if Mhikroshoft would plug the holes in the OS like they should but instead ( and its only a rumor but...) they leave doors open and let 3rd parties fill them with anti-viri programs that the anti viri program writers have written.   Perfect scheme eh?<br />
I mean honestly - In 1969 we  put a man on the moon with vaccum tube technology but in 2007 we cant make an OS thats impervious to your typical 8th grader with a little VBS and c++ training.... yeah right whatever...  Im buying a MAC (( I never thought Id say that screeb, but Im doing it , Im tired of it all.) )</p>
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		<title>By: ben linus</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>ben linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as post #2 pointed out, it is plainly obvious that results can be uploaded. It is entirely optional. Some people go up in arms over such trivial things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as post #2 pointed out, it is plainly obvious that results can be uploaded. It is entirely optional. Some people go up in arms over such trivial things.</p>
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		<title>By: ProEd</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>ProEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first learned of, and received assistance from, Geeks To Go in 2005. My 1st encounter w/ you wonderful folks started w/ posting an HJT log. I have assumed since that time that HJT software was a GTG creation, specific to this website. From what I read above it appears I was mistaken. Is there a page on a GTG forum page where I can read more about this topic? Seems us pilgrims (non-Geeks) need to learn more about the the process and information we're sending to GTG. Or am I reading this article incorrectly?

Happy trails.... ProEd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first learned of, and received assistance from, Geeks To Go in 2005. My 1st encounter w/ you wonderful folks started w/ posting an HJT log. I have assumed since that time that HJT software was a GTG creation, specific to this website. From what I read above it appears I was mistaken. Is there a page on a GTG forum page where I can read more about this topic? Seems us pilgrims (non-Geeks) need to learn more about the the process and information we're sending to GTG. Or am I reading this article incorrectly?</p>
<p>Happy trails.... ProEd</p>
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		<title>By: HumanFemale</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>HumanFemale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is denying it isn't a good program, it's what they do with the info on your computer that is questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is denying it isn't a good program, it's what they do with the info on your computer that is questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: ruthandtroy</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>ruthandtroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kurt, right underneath it has the "upload to TrendSecure"...  I think Trend Micro are a fantastic internet security company, definitely one of the better (note: not best) "paid" anti-virus products on the market...  Good on them for realising the worth of this valuable tool.  Okay, so maybe they could have gone about it in a slightly better way, but let's wait and see if they learn from their mistakes with the next revision released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kurt, right underneath it has the "upload to TrendSecure"...  I think Trend Micro are a fantastic internet security company, definitely one of the better (note: not best) "paid" anti-virus products on the market...  Good on them for realising the worth of this valuable tool.  Okay, so maybe they could have gone about it in a slightly better way, but let's wait and see if they learn from their mistakes with the next revision released.</p>
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		<title>By: Runscanner</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Runscanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for something better :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for something better <img src='http://www.whatthetech.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: jgschellinger</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>jgschellinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOH!!! Just when I thought Homer had taught me all I could possibly know about computer's and the internet; where are the doughnuts? Why you..........</description>
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		<title>By: oledawg</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>oledawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask any lawyer how risky it is to trust someone you have never met or even talked to on the telephone.
Worse, when you are asked to sign a boilerplate 'agreement', it is as if you are a willing victim waiting for the accident that will surely happen, and when it does, guess who comes out on the short end?
The trend of 'sharing information' by stealth is increasingly intrusive and should be vigorously resisted.
If you had a pedophile or an junkie living next door and he had a key to your house, how would you protect your family when you were away?  
The police would tell you to wait until they committed a crime, then they would do something about it.
We are now at that point and until there are laws to protect our computer privacy, we are more vulnerable than having a malicious slanderer on a mission to destroy our livelihood and reputation.
As a citizen, I have the same frustrations with politics, where too many in Congress are more interested in being reelected and in doing so, pander to those who use political donations and bribes to corrupt.
In turn, politicians are beholden to the corruptors and use their position of power to subvert the law-making process instead of exercising their oath to serve their constituents who voted them into office.
By default, it is up to each individual to learn how to protect himself from intrusion.
With the help of those who willingly serve, such as those at websites such as this, we can in turn assist our families and friends to resist unethical and potentially harmful intrusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask any lawyer how risky it is to trust someone you have never met or even talked to on the telephone.<br />
Worse, when you are asked to sign a boilerplate 'agreement', it is as if you are a willing victim waiting for the accident that will surely happen, and when it does, guess who comes out on the short end?<br />
The trend of 'sharing information' by stealth is increasingly intrusive and should be vigorously resisted.<br />
If you had a pedophile or an junkie living next door and he had a key to your house, how would you protect your family when you were away?<br />
The police would tell you to wait until they committed a crime, then they would do something about it.<br />
We are now at that point and until there are laws to protect our computer privacy, we are more vulnerable than having a malicious slanderer on a mission to destroy our livelihood and reputation.<br />
As a citizen, I have the same frustrations with politics, where too many in Congress are more interested in being reelected and in doing so, pander to those who use political donations and bribes to corrupt.<br />
In turn, politicians are beholden to the corruptors and use their position of power to subvert the law-making process instead of exercising their oath to serve their constituents who voted them into office.<br />
By default, it is up to each individual to learn how to protect himself from intrusion.<br />
With the help of those who willingly serve, such as those at websites such as this, we can in turn assist our families and friends to resist unethical and potentially harmful intrusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Phasers</title>
		<link>http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/07/30/hijackthis-is-now-spyware/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Phasers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just goes to prove that when it comes to Big Business and Money they would Steal the Eyes right outta your head to try and sell them back to you. There is No End to the Lowness most Companys will go to just to get our hard earned dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just goes to prove that when it comes to Big Business and Money they would Steal the Eyes right outta your head to try and sell them back to you. There is No End to the Lowness most Companys will go to just to get our hard earned dollars.</p>
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